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Mar. 12th, 2002 02:59 amНе подскажете ли, чем Begreifen отличается от Verstehen и как это различие передать в русском переводе?
Мизес (Epistemological Problems of Economics):
We want, therefore, within the procedure directed toward the comprehension of the meaning of things, a procedure of which the sciences of human make use to separate Begreifen and Verstehen. Begreifen seeks to comprehend the meaning of things by discursive thought; Verstehen seeks the meaning through a total empathy with the total situation under consideration.
Судя по ссылкам на Дильтея, это имеет отношение к герменевтической терминологии...
Мизес (Epistemological Problems of Economics):
We want, therefore, within the procedure directed toward the comprehension of the meaning of things, a procedure of which the sciences of human make use to separate Begreifen and Verstehen. Begreifen seeks to comprehend the meaning of things by discursive thought; Verstehen seeks the meaning through a total empathy with the total situation under consideration.
Судя по ссылкам на Дильтея, это имеет отношение к герменевтической терминологии...
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Date: 2002-03-11 05:40 pm (UTC)Begreifen - âîñïðèíÿòü, ïîñòè÷ü. È â ñëó÷àÿõ âîçíèêíîâåíèÿ ïðîñâåòëåíèÿ è îçàðåíèÿ (ñð. ïðîñòîðå÷. "âðóáèòüñÿ", "âúåõàòü", "ïðîñå÷ü") ÿ áû ñêàçàë "Begreifen".
Verstehen - ïîíÿòü, óñâîèòü. Îòíîñèòñÿ ê òîìó, ÷òî äàåòñÿ òðóäîì, óñèëèåì, ðàññìîòðåíèåì ðàçëè÷íûõ ñòîðîí ïðåäìåòà.
Âðîäå áû òàê.
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Date: 2002-03-12 12:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-03-12 01:40 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-03-12 08:51 am (UTC)- ïîíÿòü íå ïîñòåïåííî, à ðàçîâî è ìîìåíòàëüíî
- äîëãî íå ïîíèìàòü, ïîòîì ïîíÿòü.
- êàê-òî íåóëîâèìî ñâÿçàíî ñ "èìåòü", òî åñòü èíôîðìàöèþ ñåáå ïðèñâîèòü
verstehen - íåéòðàëüíî "ïîíèìàòü".
ß áû ïåðåâåëà begreifen êàê "ïîñòè÷ü" - ïî àíàëîãèè ñ "äîñòè÷ü", èëè - âîñïîëüçîâàâøèñü îòñóòñâèåì ñîâåðøåííîãî - íåñîâåðøåííîãî âèäà â íåìåöêîì - verstehen ïîíèìàòü, begreifen ïîíÿòü.