Большое спасибо за ответ на вопрос про textbook. Но у меня появился еще один вопрос, надеюсь, из транслейторов меня не погонят: что такое 31s6d и 6s0d? Речь идет о книгах и ценах на книги в Англии XIX века.
Penny \Pen*ny\, n.; pl. Penniesor Pence. Pennies denotes the number of coins; pence the amount of pennies in value. [OE. peni, AS. penig, pening, pending; akin to D. penning, OHG. pfenning, pfenting, G. pfennig, Icel. penningr; of uncertain origin.]
1. An English coin, formerly of copper, now of bronze, the twelfth part of an English shilling in account value, and equal to four farthings, or about two cents; -- usually indicated by the abbreviation d. (the initial of denarius). [1913 Webster]
Note: ``The chief Anglo-Saxon coin, and for a long period the only one, corresponded to the denarius of the Continent . . . [and was] called penny, denarius, or denier.'' --R. S. Poole. The ancient silver penny was worth about three pence sterling (see Pennyweight). The old Scotch penny was only one twelfth the value of the English coin. In the United States the word penny is popularly used for cent. [1913 Webster]
Как ни странно, так вовсю говорили. Может, оттого, что был ещё соверен (30 шиллингов)? А может, традиционное нежелание языка называть следующий разряд по имени, пока там не накопится хоть две единицы (1500 = fifteen hundred)?
Вы неправы. Когда речь шла о сумме, немного превышающей 20 шиллингов, фунт из нее как ни странно в 99% случаев НЕ выделяли. Например, 25/ вместо L1 5/. Более того, есть примеры, когда в государственных документах было написано 20 sh. вместо 1 pound !!
А, да. Вижу. Действительно - это я с прямым углом спутал.
"By Queen Mary's reign (1553-4), gold coins were once more struck to the 23ѕ carat standard. The newly issued 'Fine Sovereigns' struck to this standard, were valued at 30 shillings. In 1592, under the reign of Elizabeth I, a 22 carat (91.6%) gold 'Pound' coin with a value of 20 shillings was introduced alongside the 30 shilling 'Fine Sovereign'. By 1603-4 in the reign of James I, this confusing state of affairs had been rationalised (in the short-term) by the issue of a smaller and lighter 22 carat gold sovereign coin valued, once more, at 20 shillings. This was to be the last sovereign issued for over two centuries."
Однако же, вот, например, такая цитата: "Basic pay for a private soldier was 28 shillings (£1.40) a week net in 1948. This compared poorly with the average weekly wage in 1951, which was 8 pounds 8 shillings and 6 pence."
Вообще, интересно, почему такой разнобой. Я попробую узнать.
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Date: 2005-02-07 10:19 pm (UTC)1. An English coin, formerly of copper, now of bronze, the twelfth part of an English shilling in account value, and equal to four farthings, or about two cents; -- usually indicated by the abbreviation d. (the initial of denarius). [1913 Webster]
Note: ``The chief Anglo-Saxon coin, and for a long period the only one, corresponded to the denarius of the Continent . . . [and was] called penny, denarius, or denier.'' --R. S. Poole. The ancient silver penny was worth about three pence sterling (see Pennyweight). The old Scotch penny was only one twelfth the value of the English coin. In the United States the word penny is popularly used for cent. [1913 Webster]
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Date: 2005-02-07 10:26 pm (UTC)еще раз спасибо
не знала всего этого
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Date: 2005-02-07 11:39 pm (UTC)Кстати, в xix и xx веке соверены, кажется, стоили 20s
(http://www.australianstamp.com/Coin-web/history/sovhist.htm)
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Date: 2005-02-08 09:14 am (UTC)"By Queen Mary's reign (1553-4), gold coins were once more struck to the 23ѕ carat standard. The newly issued 'Fine Sovereigns' struck to this standard, were valued at 30 shillings.
In 1592, under the reign of Elizabeth I, a 22 carat (91.6%) gold 'Pound' coin with a value of 20 shillings was introduced alongside the 30 shilling 'Fine Sovereign'. By 1603-4 in the reign of James I, this confusing state of affairs had been rationalised (in the short-term) by the issue of a smaller and lighter 22 carat gold sovereign coin valued, once more, at 20 shillings. This was to be the last sovereign issued for over two centuries."
Однако же, вот, например, такая цитата:
"Basic pay for a private soldier was 28 shillings (£1.40) a week net in 1948. This compared poorly with the average weekly wage in 1951, which was 8 pounds 8 shillings and 6 pence."
Вообще, интересно, почему такой разнобой. Я попробую узнать.
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Date: 2005-02-08 10:55 am (UTC)