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[oryx_and_crake]

If anyone is insane let him not be openly seen in the city, but let the family of such a person watch over him at home in the best manner they know of, and if they are negligent let them pay a fine.

Из какой это книги и из какой главы? Это предположительно "Государство", или, возможно, "Законы", но что-то я ни в английском тексте, ни в русском ничего похожего не нахожу.

Заранее спасибо.

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[weird-penguin.livejournal.com]

[934d] or else they shall pay a penalty; a person belonging to the highest property-class shall pay a hundred drachmae, whether the man he is neglecting be a free man or a slave,—one belonging to the second class shall pay four-fifths of a mina—one of the third class, three-fifths,—and one of the fourth class, two-fifths. There are many and various forms of madness: in the cases now mentioned it is caused by disease, but cases also occur where it is due to the natural growth and fostering of an evil temper, by which men in the course of a trifling quarrel abuse one another slanderously with loud cries—

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vols. 10 & 11 translated by R.G. Bury. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1967 & 1968.

[oryx_and_crake]

Спасибо. Так какая книга все-таки? (Только не говорите "Платон в двенадцати томах", умоляю!)

[weird-penguin.livejournal.com]

Laws.
...

If a man is mad he shall not be at large in the city, but his relations shall keep him at home in any way which they can; or if not, let them pay a penalty-he who is of the highest class shall pay a penalty of one hundred drachmae, whether he be a slave or a freeman whom he neglects; and he of the second class shall pay four-fifths of a mina; and he of the third class three-fifths; and he of the fourth class two-fifths. Now there are many sorts of madness, some arising out of disease, which we have already mentioned; and there are other kinds, which originate in an evil and passionate temperament, and are increased by bad education; out of a slight quarrel this class of madmen will often raise a storm of abuse against one another, and nothing of that sort ought to be allowed to occur in a well-ordered state.

http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/laws.11.xi.html

[oryx_and_crake]

о! я вас люблю!

[oryx_and_crake]

но вообще что-то не очень похоже на мою цитату. может, Дэвис ее сам сочинил, проказник этакий?

[weird-penguin.livejournal.com]

Не сочинил, а пересказал.

[delya-rape.livejournal.com]

"Сумасшедшие не должны показываться в городе. Их близкие пусть охраняют их в своем доме как умеют. В противном случае они должны будут уплатить пеню" ("Законы", кн. 11, пер. А.Н.Егунова).

[oryx_and_crake]

Большое спасибо!

[oryx_and_crake]

Да нет, мне уже нашли и цитату, и опубликованный русский перевод. Это из "Законов", книга 11.