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Я перевожу тексты религиозной тематики и привыкла уже ко многому. Но вот сегодня встретила такую загадку: threshing meeting. пояснение: "A threshing meeting or threshing session is defined as “a meeting at which a variety of different, and sometimes controversial, opinions can be openly, and sometimes forcefully, expressed. Originally the term was used to describe large and noisy meetings for convincement of `the world's people' in order to `thresh' them away from the world”
Ну и как бы вы перевели эту молотилку? :)
Заранеее спасибо всем, кто откликнется.
Я перевожу тексты религиозной тематики и привыкла уже ко многому. Но вот сегодня встретила такую загадку: threshing meeting. пояснение: "A threshing meeting or threshing session is defined as “a meeting at which a variety of different, and sometimes controversial, opinions can be openly, and sometimes forcefully, expressed. Originally the term was used to describe large and noisy meetings for convincement of `the world's people' in order to `thresh' them away from the world”
Ну и как бы вы перевели эту молотилку? :)
Заранеее спасибо всем, кто откликнется.
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Date: 2012-05-11 08:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-05-11 10:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-05-11 10:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-05-12 12:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-05-12 06:07 pm (UTC)Thresh (out) ideas, plans etc = *thrash them out* = discuss untill agreement is reached
So find an appropriate synonym and translate it.
discuss = talk over, deliberate over, review, examine; debate, argue, thrash out
This is something very common and ordinary for a meeting and has been done for hundreds of years - just the name is supposed to sound *cool*, a new and exciting concoction of words
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Date: 2012-05-12 06:17 pm (UTC)This is typical of a certain style of management, e.g. *extreme programming* or *agile programming* in the USA introduced a slate of *new* terms, and as such should be viewed with a healthy dose of disdain and translated without any piety or excessive respect.
These are just brainless managerial games intended to whip up fake enthusiasm and so in the end to drive workers harder than before.
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Date: 2012-05-12 06:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-05-12 06:56 pm (UTC)Definitions: verb (tr, adverb) to discuss fully or vehemently, esp in order to come to a solution or agreement
Usage examples:
1. With luck, they could sit down later and thrash out what he'd gleaned so far.
Val McDermid, THE LAST TEMPTATION (2002)
2. Another round of refills was ordered as the 3 decided to thrash out the details.
Business Today (2000)
3. In London, a British Foreign Office source said "furious negotiations" were under way to thrash out a solution.
New Zealand Herald (2004)
4. England coach Sven Goran Eriksson will meet with FA chief Adam Crozier to thrash out the future of the Leeds ' pair.
Sun, News of the World (2002)
5. In November 2000 an international summit convened in The Hague to thrash out unresolved problems left hanging by the Kyoto treaty.
Paul Martin, COUNTING SHEEP: The Science and Pleasures of Sleep and Dreams (2002)
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Date: 2012-05-12 06:58 pm (UTC)You are really helpful.
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Date: 2012-05-12 07:06 pm (UTC)But "thrashing/threshing ideas" was in my memory all right, so all I had to do was just check myself in case of an accidental slip.
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Date: 2012-05-13 01:01 am (UTC)я бы на месте автора вопроса не выдумывала ничего и перевела как есть.
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Date: 2012-05-14 01:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-05-12 06:59 pm (UTC)эти собрания - места, где мы С ЖАРОМ обсуждаем наши идеи, а потому они называются ПАРИЛКОЙ.
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Date: 2012-05-12 07:17 pm (UTC)Мне тут ещё предлагают перетряской ))