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Date: 2012-05-22 04:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-05-22 04:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-05-22 05:17 pm (UTC)Lone wolf - волк-одиночка. Он бегает один, но не предполагается, что он этим одиночеством тяготится.
Lonely wolf - совсем другое дело. Этому явно не хватает общества других волков.
Между lonesome и lonely раница более тонкая.
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Date: 2012-05-22 05:25 pm (UTC)Lonely и Lonesome - это скорее страдающий от одиночества. It felt lonesome in Paris without Jane. I suddenly felt very lonely.
Lonesome - скорее американизм, lonely работает в обоих языках.
Lonely, вдобавок, можно применить к неодушевлённым предметам, а lonesome - нельзя. Например, The old oak tree on the hill looked very lonely. С lonesome фигня получится.
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Date: 2012-05-22 05:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-05-22 06:25 pm (UTC)Это была попытка пошутить?
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"Then, you see, you live in a lonesome way, and in a lonesome room, with a black circumstance hanging over it," says Mr. Snagsby, looking in past the other's shoulder along the dark passage, and then falling back a step to look up at...
Bleak House
Charles Dickens
Bradbury and Evans, 1853 - 624 pages
, etc.
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Date: 2012-05-22 06:40 pm (UTC)М.б., у меня глюки, всякое бывает, но, из UK, мне это слово кажется пафосным и немного архаичным.
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Date: 2012-05-22 06:48 pm (UTC)I bet you told her lies about how lonesome you were. I think you smell of her. You're a disgusting brute.' 'Take your shoes off,' said Tim. 'They're like bloody spears.' 'You take them off. I can't get at them. You're in the way.
Nuns and Soldiers
Iris Murdoch, Karen Armstrong
Penguin, Aug 1, 2002 - 492 pages
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- Dame Iris Murdoch DBE (15 July 1919 – 8 February 1999) was an Irish-born British author and philosopher, best known for her novels about political and social questions of good and evil, sexual relationships, morality, and the power of the unconscious.
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Karen Armstrong FRSL (born 14 November 1944), is a British author and commentator who is the author of twelve books on comparative religion.
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Date: 2012-05-22 07:12 pm (UTC)Лучше вы бы эту энергию бросили на описание семантической разницы.
Потому что в примере от Мердок lonely не подходит исключительно из-за соседства с brute (ещё одно пафосное словечко).
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Date: 2012-05-22 07:20 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-05-22 07:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-05-22 06:42 pm (UTC)Хотя это тоже весьма относительное соответствие.
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Date: 2012-05-22 07:18 pm (UTC)lonesome
A adj.
1 Of a person etc.: solitary, lonely; now esp. having a feeling of solitude or loneliness, feeling lonely or forlorn. Also foll. by for. M17.
2 Of a place etc.: unfrequented, desolate; now esp. causing feelings of loneliness, making one feel forlorn. M17.
B n.
One's self, one's own. Chiefly in by one's lonesome, on one's lonesome. colloq. L19. lonesomely adv. L18. lonesomeness n. E18.
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Date: 2012-05-22 07:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-05-22 07:36 pm (UTC)http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/lonesome_1
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Date: 2012-05-22 07:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-05-22 07:59 pm (UTC)Lonely is a broad term describing a state of mind which is induced by lack of companionship or the kind of sympathy which companionship can provide. A lonely feeling can range from the mild sadness engendered by a casual instance of solitude to the great unhappiness and depression one might feel after a long period of separation from or lack of meaningful relationship with other people: a lonely young sailor feeling sorry for himself because his date had stood him up; a lonely spinster whose eccentricities had robbed her of the opportunity for anything but the most impersonal kind of social contact. Lonely stretch of beach where it was possible to bathe in the nude. In reference to places, lonesome intensifies the meaning of lonely to suggest a place not merely deserted but having an air of melancholy about it: a house she had always thought of as over-crowded but which was lonesome and cavernous when her children grew up and went out on their own. In its description of people lonesome is again a stronger word than lonely but is slightly less formal in tone. It often suggests the dejection felt when one is faced with the absence of someone to whom one is or has been very close: a merchandising executive who never got over being lonesome when he had to leave his family for business travel; lonesome for a pet dog that he’d raised from a pup and that had just died.
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Date: 2012-05-22 09:35 pm (UTC)Например: I feel lonely today. I guess I could call Jim and invite him over for a drink. Или: Among other kids, he was a complete stranger. The whole day he would sit in his room, not going out, not talking to anybody, lonesome and desperate.