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ru_translate...God disposes.
Curiously, in Russian there is precisely the same saying, and also rhymed!
Человек предполагает, Бог располагает.
I wonder if this is a coincidence or both have a common origin. What about other language?
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Curiously, in Russian there is precisely the same saying, and also rhymed!
Человек предполагает, Бог располагает.
I wonder if this is a coincidence or both have a common origin. What about other language?
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Date: 2006-02-14 02:53 am (UTC)"Много замыслов в сердце человека, но состоится только определенное Господом"
http://www.zhurnal.ru/magister/library/bible/russian/prov19.htm
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Date: 2006-02-14 03:32 am (UTC)thomas à kempis
Date: 2006-02-14 03:49 am (UTC)« Nam homo proponit, sed Deus disponit, nec est in homine via ejus. » — Thomas à Kempis, De Imitatione Christi, I.19.2 (http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/kempis/kempis1.shtml)
« L’homme propose (la femme accepte souvent) et Dieu dispose. » — Alphonse Allais
cervantes
Date: 2006-02-14 04:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-14 04:14 am (UTC)http://www.bartleby.com/7/2/119.html#txt1
На языке оригинала, это было Nam homo proponit, sed Deus disponit.
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Date: 2006-02-14 04:31 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-14 05:10 am (UTC)Вот один из переводов, не думаю, что первый:
http://www.krotov.info/library/f/kempi1.html
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Date: 2006-02-14 03:26 pm (UTC)первый перевод -- 1647 год
Date: 2006-02-14 03:36 pm (UTC)http://bibleapologet.narod.ru/jmp/jmp63_11.htm
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Date: 2006-02-14 01:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-14 07:48 am (UTC)BTW there is a joke about German irregular verbal declension that adds the second line:
Der Mensch dachte und Gott lachte.
Bulgarian
Date: 2006-02-14 10:06 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-14 02:14 pm (UTC)Vot eche odno -- chelovek cheloveky volk. Latin: homo homini lupus.
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Date: 2006-02-14 03:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-14 04:38 pm (UTC)Actually there are two variants:
homo homini lupus
ili
lupus est homo homini
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Date: 2006-02-14 07:45 pm (UTC)Никогда такого варианта не слышал. И не я один:
873 for "lupus est homo homini".
55,800 for "homo homini lupus est".
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Date: 2006-02-14 07:57 pm (UTC)However I do see a lot more hits for "homo homini lupus"
as opposed to "homo homini lupus est" (110000/17700)
Here is a source http://www.yuni.com/library/latin_2.html
but they may be incorrect, of course.
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Date: 2006-02-14 07:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-14 10:42 pm (UTC)Но мне тоже как-то больше нравится классический вариант.
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Date: 2006-02-14 11:33 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-15 01:45 pm (UTC)Lupus est homo homini, non homo, quom qualis sit, non novit. Т.е. человек человеку волк, а не человек, если он не знает, каковой есть (т.е. собеседник).
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Date: 2006-02-15 02:07 pm (UTC)волк человек человеку, а не человек...
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Date: 2006-02-15 03:22 pm (UTC)Aga, a potom sokratilos' do prosto chelovek cheloveky volk.